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On Sep 27, 2007, at 9:25 AM, Michael Reitsma wrote:

> Well euuh,
>
> All of this still sounds to Pinguinish to me ....
> I used to do:
> download zip/rar of Product
> extract and put in Product directory
> restart Zope server
> And now this is all different ?

mike,

the tarball contains all the products you need in the subfolders  
quills-products, everything inside the src folder needs to go into  
lib/python. check their respective README's on how to include them  
into your setup.

the bootstrap.py and buildout.cfg are just added for convenience. you  
can safely ignore them entirely.

> for example, tar is not a Windows command,

you obviously don't need to use the tar command from the commandline  
to unpack the archive... i'm sure you've unpacked the archive already.

> bootstrapping ?, firing up instance ?

buildout is just a means of convenience for doing all that 'manual  
labour' for you, i.e. creating a zope instance in the first place,  
downloading and installing plone and other dependencies, putting the  
products into the products, adding zcml slugs etc.

the buildout provided lets you have all that with basically just one  
tarball and executing one command.

surely, that's nothing to go 'euuh' at, is it? ;-)

> Did somebody just change the basics of adding products in Plone

well, Plone and Zope *are* moving away from Products towards packages  
and eggs and the development of quills reflects this. i.e. it is no  
longer sufficient to just dump a tar into a products folder, as it  
used to be. that's life, i guess.

> or is this still the Linux way of doing things .....

i'm afraid i don't know what you mean with 'Linux way' in this  
context...

> Or subversion way ?

you mean bundles?

> (I think i have missed  something here i guess.)

i apologize for assuming too much contextual knowledge when creating  
and releasing the bundle. keep in mind that it's the first beta,  
though, so i guess i had more of a developer target audience in  
mind... but then again, I *did* announce the beta on the plone-users  
list, so i should have made the documentation more end-user friendly.

> If so when can i expect a Product zip to appear at the Plone page,  
> or will this never happen ?

this *is* the product archive, i don't know what else you would want...

i hope i could clear some of this confusion, feel free to further  
enquiries, but please keep this to the list,

cheers,

tom
>
>
> rgrds Mike
>
> On 9/27/07, Tom Lazar <lists at tomster.org> wrote:
> hi michael,
>
> actually, your operating system doesn't figure into this problem at  
> all ;-)
>
> so it's no discrimination of windows users, just of people who  
> haven't got subversion installed...
>
> but no longer! i've uploaded a tarball of the buildout, so all you  
> need is to download this,  expand the tarball provided above,  
> change into the new directory, bootstrap it and fire up the  
> instance, like so:
>
> http://plone.org/products/quills/releases/1.6/quills-1-6-beta1.tgz
>
> tar xzf quills-1.6-beta1.tgz ; cd quills-1.6-beta1 ; python  
> bootstrap.py ; ./bin/buildout ; ./bin/instance fg
>
> let me know, if that works for you.
>
> cheers,
>
> tom
>
> On Sep 26, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Michael Reitsma wrote:
>
>> I know the world is supposed to be made of Linux ....
>> But unfortunately there are some Windows users around :-) such as me.
>> And this :
>> svn co
>>
>> https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/Quills/bundles/quills- 
>> buildout/tags/1.6-beta1 quills ; cd quills ; python  
>> bootstrap.py ; ./bin/buildout ; ./bin/instance fg
>> Just doesn't cut it for me being on a Windows platform.
>> Could i persuade somebody to put a proper zip file on the download  
>> page of Quills ?
>>
>> -- 
>>  with kind regards
>>
>> Michael Reitsma
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>
>
>
>
> -- 
> met vriendelijke groeten / with kind regards
>
> Michael Reitsma

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